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janus zeal


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Mon - Aug 28, '00 @ 20:00:00
Im amazed, this is working quite well on Opera 3.
well, except for the images. lol

LMAO.. opera 30 day trial. ..just wow..

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chozo4


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Mon - Aug 28, '00 @ 20:00:00
Bring back memories much using Opera 3? You're really missing out - try using IE3 for these boards as well then try going to google and viewing other pages. You'll get a laugh at how badly some are made :o My main site won't work right under those browsers mainly because I use javascript to render the nav bar and other areas. IE3 (and opera 3) won't do javascript and so won't show them. It's been neglected for oh so long....

You can get standalone versions of IE from 3.0-5.5 from http://downloads.skyzyx.com/ as well as an install script to run IE7 as standalone.

I've been contemplating changing some of the images on these boards over to JPG or GIF format since the older versions of many browsers as you can see are unable to handle PNG. Only drawback to using JPG is quality loss and the sizes are generally bigger on small-regular sized images compared to those compressed using PNG. Additionally, the only drawback to using GIF is a larger size unless your image is relatively small with only 2 colors or 16 colors whareas PNG will win over in size when using more than 16 (256 colors).

.. I could resort to some serverside browser sniffing but that would be additional serverside code that shouldn't really be needed.

As for the overall appearance, here is a small tip for style fallback in non-css compliant browsers. When you have the HTML layed out - set it up as if there would be no css, styling the aras using the depreciated HTML attributes such as BGColor and the like. Then you add css afterward to override those HTML color attributes. This way older browsers have something to fall back onto for styling.
The position of the class or style attribute will tell which parts of that items styling can be overridden. If the class/style comes after a table width size that size can be overriden. If it comes before it then the CSS is overridden with the attribute instead and so cannot be changed using stylesheets.

.. using such a method will leave you open to using only the HTML 4.01 transitional standard by w3c as HTML 3.02 won't accept CLASS/STYLE attributes for styling and XHTML won't allow anything other than stylesheets (CLASS/STYLE).

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chozo4


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Mon - Aug 28, '00 @ 20:00:00
Testing This On My Fathers Cellphone Right Now ... Views And Functions Quite Well Actually . Thank God For T9word!

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janus zeal


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Tue - Aug 29, '00 @ 20:00:00
Im viewing it now in the "WebTV Viewer" Browser emulator.

(testing my site for webtv compatiblity... i had to change the default skin for it to work properly.)

~janus zeal

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chozo4


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Wed - Jan 31, '07 @ 20:40:11
Justtesting and logging a bit of info from a nearby webtv.

testing


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